TRANSCRIPT Ep. 310 | Podathon Day 5: Astro*Carto*Graphy, with Ronnie Gale Dreyer!

Episode 310 | Podathon Day 5: Astro*Carto*Graphy, with Ronnie Gale Dreyer! (9.5.25)

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Hello, Invisible Friend, April here, and the date today is September 5th, 2025. Welcome to Episode 310 of the Big Sky Astrology Podcast, and the final day of the Sixth Annual Big Sky Astrology Podathon!

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And now for today’s episode!

In this week’s special daily episodes, I’ve been covering the week’s major astrological news and sharing an interview with a fellow astrologer, each practicing in a particular astrological specialty – Psychological astrology, Vedic, Hellenistic, and Evolutionary. And today, my final interview in this series is with RONNIE GALE DREYER, talking about one of her astrological specialties: Astro*Carto*Graphy! But first, let’s take a look at today’s planetary news.

Today’s Astrology Highlights

Uranus turns retrograde (9:51 pm) 1.27 Gemini – turns direct Feb. 3, 2026, 6:33 pm PDT, 27.27 Taurus (goes back into Taurus on Nov. 7, 2025, returns to Gemini Apr. 25, 2026). Uranus, the planet of liberty, unpredictability, and rebellion, turns retrograde today at 9:51 pm, at 01º27’ Gemini. A transiting planet that’s retrograde sometimes appears to behave contrary to its usual mode – in the case of Uranus, seeming to toe the line and go along with the crowd.

But the key phrase here is “seeming to.” Because retrograde motion is an illusion, and so is this reversal of character. When a planet is retrograde, we focus its power inward, looking for our own guidance in its matters. What are the rules that govern our inner life, and which of them do we feel need to be broken?

By the time Uranus turns direct again on Feb. 3, 2026, it will have retrograded all the way back into Taurus on Nov. 6. A feeling of liberation that emerged at that time will be questioned in the coming months. What are you willing to give up, or put up with, to maintain your sense of freedom? You’ll be much clearer about that by the time Uranus turns direct in the new year.

Lunar Activity

There’s also a VOC Moon period that begins today at 1:51 pm PDT, when the Moon in Aquarius trines Mars in Libra. It’s VOC for 19 hours, 3 minutes before it enters Pisces on Sep. 6 at 8:54 am, and gets ready for its big Lunar Eclipse. A trine aspect from the Moon to Mars can be very energizing, and get you moving on doing what needs to be done – and since the Moon is in Aquarius and Mars is in Libra, this is especially applicable to social commitments.

and looking ahead to Sunday, September 7th, the Full Moon in Pisces at 11:08 AM Pacific Time is a total lunar eclipse at 15 degrees, 22 minutes Pisces.

Now any Full Moon reveals what is and isn’t working in our lives. It’s the time of the moon’s greatest illumination, and we notice a lot of things that we normally don’t, but this one is an eclipse. An eclipse represents a crisis or a turning point. Lunar eclipses in particular are important for relationships and we will often see turns in the road relationships beginning getting to a new level or even ending a Pisces Full Moon.

And Eclipse asks us to cultivate an environment of empathy and flexibility. This is a time we’re kind of taking a fresh look back at that first of two Virgo new moons on August 22nd, and preparing for any changes that may be coming our way at the September 21st. Virgo New Moon, solar eclipse. The Sabian symbol for this eclipse point is 16 Pisces.

The flow of inspiration. Which certainly sounds very apropos for Pisces, and the Sun is on 16 Virgo, An Orangutan. Together, these symbols suggest something about letting our inspiration be inspired by wildness and a lack of refinement. Eclipses near this same point included a solar eclipse back on March 9th, 2016, a lunar eclipse on September 7th, 2006, a lunar eclipse on September 6th, 1998, and a solar eclipse on March 9th, 1997 – all within just a few degrees of this lunar eclipse point. So since the same areas of your chart are being impacted by this eclipse, it’s worth looking back to these previous years to see if something that was important in your life then is connected in some way to what’s happening for you now.

If you would like a little help figuring that all out, you can order my Moonshadow Eclipse report. It covers the years 2025 through 2027. And shows where all of the eclipses are falling in your birth chart, the aspects they’re making to your natal planets, and most importantly, all of the previous years in these cycles. You can order the report at https://www.eclipseastrology.com.

My final Podathon interview today is with Ronnie Gale Dreyer, who’s sharing an overview of Astro*Carto*Graphy, which is a subject I’ve gotten many listener questions about. I hope you enjoy our conversation.

INTERVIEW: Astro*Carto*Graphy with Ronnie Gale Dreyer

My guest today is Ronnie Gale Dryer, and she is an internationally known consultant, author and teacher specializing in both Western and Indian astrology. Based in New York City, she has clients and students throughout the world. She lectures and teaches extensively for astrology groups and conferences. She is a certified Astro*carto*graphy practitioner. Ronnie has written numerous books, including Venus and Vedic Astrology, and articles and columns. She holds an MA in South Asian languages from Columbia University.

Ronnie is here with us today to talk about Astro*Carto*Graphy, which is a subject I know many of my listeners are fascinated by. Ronnie, it is such a pleasure to welcome you to the Big Sky Astrology Podcast. Thank you for making the time to be with us today.

Ronnie: Well, thank you for inviting me. I’m really looking forward to talking about Astro*Carto*Graphy.

April: Yay. Well then, you are the right person for this particular interview. What is Astro*Carto*Graphy, and how does it add a new or different perspective to a natal chart?

Ronnie: Okay, well, Astro*Carto*Graphy itself is a trademark term that Jim Lewis, an astrologer who kind of invented and promoted this technique in the 1970s, he trademarked it to combine the whole idea of locational astrology with astrology. And he did not invent it, but he kind of made it into a product, into a map, a beautiful, visual map. And you will know Astro*Carto*Graphy sometimes as astro locality or astro mapping. And really very simply what it is, is it shows you where the planets are angular around the world at an exact moment in time.

So, let’s say I am, which I am, I’m in New York and it, you know, whatever time it is, let’s say three in the afternoon. And you are in California, which would be at 12:00 PM. So, I would then take that map, take that chart, and I would then draw it up. If it was my map, let’s say it’s three o’clock, I would move it to make it 12 o’clock in California.

So, what it would mean is that the planets would all be exactly the same, because we’re just looking at the planetary degrees all around the world, but the angles are gonna be different. The Ascendant is gonna be different. The midheaven is gonna be different, because the Sun is gonna rise, let’s say three hours earlier.

So that’s really what it means. It just shows you different places in the world where, let’s say, your planets are angular, and you can do this just by relocating your chart in any software. And that would give you a whole new chart. The planets are the same, but again, it would show you a new Ascendant, a new Midheaven, which means your planets could be in different houses. And so they give you a different kind of relationship to place.

And what the map did with specifically… with what’s called Astro*Carto*Graphy, is it really worked with the angle. And it was the whole idea or concept, if you know Michel Gauquelin, he was a French astrologer who talked about planets on the angles and how important they are.

And if you look at planets that are connected with your angles, with your Midheaven, IC, Ascendant and Descendant, they’re gonna be very prominent in your life. They’re gonna be very important, and that’s really the basis of Astro*Carto*Graphy.

Again, you can look at the whole chart in a different place and you can then, you know, examine everything, the houses, and how they relate to the new angle. So that’s really all it is, is just looking at your chart at the same exact moment in time, but in a different place.

April: And it’s such a nice, elegant map that he created. Because instead of having to go hunt and peck around the world to figure out where you could cast a chart to get the Sun on the midheaven, for example, in this map, it’s very obvious.

So, when somebody looks at their Astro*Carto*Graphy map, they will see all of these planetary lines that are crossing the globe. Can you just give us a way of thinking about what those lines actually represent?

Ronnie: Yeah. So when you first look at a map, it can be very daunting. It used to be that many, many years ago, you had to buy the map. Now, of course, it’s in every software program. You can even go to astro.com and do it for free. But if you look at the whole map of the world, it’s daunting because you’re going to have, uh, let’s say the Sun on the Midheaven, IC, Ascendant, Descendant in different places all around the world. So that’s four options. Then you get four options for the Moon, Mercury, et cetera.

So the best thing to do always is kind of isolate it. So, you can look at your map for the United States or for North America, South America, for Europe, for Asia, and then what you do is that when you look at it and you see where that line is, you can kind of follow it and say, okay, let’s say Venus was on the Midheaven in a different city, and what you would see, you would see like a vertical line going up and down for the Midheaven-IC. But what you would see, let’s say for the Ascendants and descendants is, you’d see a curving line because the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west, so it becomes very curving.

And when you look at those, it just simply means that for two things you can, like you do with a horoscope, you can look at a planet generically. So you can say, oh, well let’s see, where is Venus? Let me see if that’s where I’m gonna find love. But it’s not that simple. So that’s why people have to then think a little bit harder. It might be a place where you’re creative or you experience Venus, you know, and experience, let’s say the whole idea of love.

The funny thing is, when I got into Astro*Carto*Graphy, I had traveled a lot and I looked back on where I’d been. The interesting thing was I went to the University of New Mexico and when I looked at the map, for instance, Venus was on my midheaven in Albuquerque, which is where the University of New Mexico is.

And I thought, well that’s interesting because I studied drama with the theater major. And that was, like, years later that I saw that. But what it really meant was that if I changed my particular chart. From being born in New York City to being born in Albuquerque, the angles changed, so that Venus would be on the midheaven of my chart in Albuquerque for two hours earlier, because, you know, the difference in time.

So every planet is going to have a generic meaning. Uh, a, let’s say if you go to a Jupiter line, you might get opportunities, you might expand your horizons, you might learn. Mercury, you might find that you’re doing different things, you know, not just one thing. Again, it might be media work or it might just be that you have two different interests.

Saturn would be a line that you have to, you know, be more structured and maybe you’d have to give up something. So, it might mean that you’re not gonna be as doing a million things, that you have to focus on one thing.

And that’s very general. So the key, though, would be to then relate it back to your natal chart. And this what I always tell people what I teach. I say, well, you might want to go to your Venus line for love, but what if you have Venus conjunct Mars square Saturn, opposite Pluto? What if you have a really intense, difficult Venus? You might not want to go to your Venus line. You know, you might want to avoid it.

April: Your Venus is a special case.

Ronnie: So, you know, but it gives you opportunities in different areas. It just makes those planets more prominent, the energy of the planet, but also what it does in your natal chart, you always have to go back to your natal chart. What is your planet doing? You know, what house is it in? What house does it rule? What aspects does it have?

And you know, then it gets more complicated, because you might have, you know, Venus in a quadrant that doesn’t have any aspects to it. So, it’s like a singleton. And then you’d say, well, maybe I don’t want to go there, because it’s gonna give me more of a lonely life rather than a life of love and connection.

Every planet, you know… Sometimes you can have a Mars line and be more accident prone. I’ve seen that happen. But then if you’re aware of it, you might be more careful, you know? So it’s like anything else in the birth chart, it just makes certain planets in different places, more obvious. You know what I’m saying? The energy is more palpable. And things like that. So it’s kind of interesting to just look quickly at your map and then you can get, like, more into it, really look more deeply.

April: What you said is so important. I was speaking to an astrologer about a month ago that does a lot of astro locality and he said what people don’t understand when they’re asking about Astro*Carto*Graphy is we’re not just looking at Astro*Carto*Graphy, we’re looking at your chart.

So it really isn’t as, as you say, if you have a high profile, especially, it seems, a conjunction, a square, or an opposition in your chart, then going to those angular places is obviously gonna bring that whole configuration to the forefront and all angular

Ronnie: Like, if you do ask for Astro*Carto*Graphy for a client, or yourself, or your family member, or whatever, you really have to know your chart.

You can look at it as an exercise in just saying, oh, my Mars line is here, my Uranus line is here. But you then really wanna know what they mean in your natal chart in order to combine the natal chart with the location. So that’s really, really important.

April: Another astrologer, I think it was Susie Cox, I heard talking about it, and she said that she starts out by just asking people, where have you been? How did it feel? Right? Because then you get so much of a feeling of how that generic planet acts out once it’s on an angle.

Ronnie: Right. I did an Astro*Carto*Graphy reading for a client that I’ve seen for many years, so I know her pretty well, and she kept telling me about this one place she really wanted to go to, and you know, I was looking at the map and I said, yeah, okay. That place has a little bit of a complication simply because it puts a lot of planets on angles, so it’s intense. I said, I wouldn’t tell you not to go to a place because it’s intense. I would just say to you, make sure you know that you’re going to have that.

And some people are not steered away from a place just because it has challenges. ‘Cause life is full of challenges. What I do say to people, exactly what Susie says, I said, always visit a place first. You know, spend a little time there, if you’re gonna move there.

I mean, it doesn’t always mean if you have an Astro*Carto*Graphy map or you want to learn about it, that you’re gonna move to a place. You can do business with somebody who is living in a place. It doesn’t have to be that you’re physically in that place, but it might mean you have a connection with that place. But if you do wanna move there, we say you have to go there. See how it feels viscerally. Because you know, the Astro*Carto*Graphy map, it’s on paper. You know, it’s like anything. It’s like anything else. I mean, ideally, or in theory, you might have this planet on an angle in your chart in a certain place, but you have to experience how it really feels.

April: I think I told you in an email that I sent you that I found so much over the years that when people are getting a lot of hard transits, for example, to a planet in their chart and they’re talking about moving, and I’ll look at that place, it is a place where they have a strong Astro*Carto*Graphy line . It’s almost as if they have to go to that place to really work through that transit.

Are there questions that an Astro*Carto*Graphy chart can help a person answer? Or is it really just useful for deciding where to move or where to travel?

Ronnie: Oh, not at all. I mean, there, like I said, there are many connections, especially now that we live in such a global world with the internet.

As I was saying to you earlier, it’s become so popular because we’re in touch with people all over the place. I mean, I remember, you know, like when I was a kid. We would have what called pen pals, and I don’t know if you had pen pals and you would… it was, it was the only way you could communicate.

So you had a pen pal and school provided a list and you know, you could pick a country, let’s say you wanted to have a pen pal in Japan. You wrote a letter, which took weeks to get there, and then that person would write you a letter back. And you were pen pals. Now, of course, all you have to do is send a text, send an email.

The world has become so much closer, so the options for Astro*Carto*Graphy are enormous. You don’t have to move to a place, like I said, I was saying before. You might wanna do business in a place, and that business might have its location or headquarters in a certain place. Or you might wanna do business with somebody and they’re the president of a company or they live in a certain place. You might even have a relationship with somebody and you might find that they’re from a different place. And so that would be interesting.

I had a client a few months ago and we were looking at the map and I was showing him his Venus line – it just so happens it was Venus – and it went through a certain town in India. He was Indian, and he said, “Wow, that’s where my wife is from.” So they were living in California, but his wife was born and raised in the place where his Venus line went through.

Ronnie: It was fascinating and you can do connections with a place. You can also travel. I know a lot of times people, when they wanna take vacations, they have options and they might look at the abstract Astro*Carto*Graphy map and say, well, which is a better place?

And again, it’s timing, also. Where are your transit? I mean, if you have a difficult transit to a planet, you might be compelled to go to that place. Or you might wanna keep away from it. It’s the same thing, but it’s definitely, I think, difficult transits kind of compel you to move and take action and do things. And that’s, like, what my talk at UAC is gonna be about.

April: That’s what I thought when I saw the title. I thought, oh good!

Ronnie: Yeah, and Jim Lewis, I mean, of course, he was a businessman too. He was a great astrologer, but he was a businessman. He developed a technique that he trademarked also, called Cyclo*Cartography. And it had to do with progressions and transits to the planet where you, when you wanted to make a move, or at this particular time.

And it shows you, of course, if you had a planet in a certain place or even in your birth chart, of course, you look at the progressions and transits and it might emphasize that place.

I mean, now they also have what’s called remote activation, and this has become, it’s interesting. It’s become a kind of catch phrase in some of the courses that people are teaching about Astro*Carto*Graphy. And it has to do with, let’s say, you have a Jupiter line and you really want… You have a nice Jupiter in your chart and you want the opportunities and some expansion and luck, but you’re not even near a Jupiter line and anywhere that you might move, Jupiter is not gonna be angular.

But let’s say you have Jupiter angular in Italy, for instance, and you wanna activate that Jupiter. You would maybe listen to opera or, you know, eat Italian food or something that puts you in touch with that place without being there. And even with the internet, it becomes easy to sort of make connections with a place and see what’s happening. Maybe, you know, a film that was made in a certain place.

I had a client a few months ago, and again, I don’t really tell people what to do, particularly. I’ll give them different options because one part of astrology, it’s not the whole answer. And I think what’s very important also is, I mean, at least it’s my point of view, is that you take yourself wherever you go.

So when you go to a place, let’s say you wanna move or do business in a place, and you have a particular planet that’s going to be strong in the chart. Well, that means that that planet will give you a different kind of relationship to that place. It’s sort of like, if you move anywhere, you know that your relationship to a place is different.

You might move to a place that has a dry climate or a muggy climate. You’re gonna relate to it differently. Maybe the plant life is different. You always know that you are not gonna change particularly, but different places might bring certain things out in you because you might be able to express them better in that particular place.

So that’s, I think, important to remember. You still are who you are, but you might be able to tap into something easier, you know, in a certain place. So that goes with travel, it goes with work. Also colleges. I had a friend, her daughter made a lot of different colleges and she wanted me to look at the Astro*Carto*Graphy map for each of the locations, where the universities were and that, and that was kind of interesting to see, you know, how it would relate to that.

Really use it for a lot of different purposes, not just making the move to change your life and have a permanent move anywhere.

April: I remember working with one client who was a writer and had a manuscript that they wanted to submit, and they had a choice of a few different publishing houses, and so we could look at where that publishing house was based, how their chart, you know, lined up there. And it was pretty helpful.

Well, what is the first step you would recommend for someone who is curious about Astro*Carto*Graphy? Do you recommend that people visit their planetary lines in person, or we talked about that and how you can activate them in other ways. What are the resources that you would point people to?

Ronnie: Well, to learn about Astro*Carto*Graphy, there are nowadays so many options. Of course, Jim Lewis, he wrote a book, which my husband, Kenneth Irving, actually edited and completed because Jim passed away. The book is called The Psychology of Astro*Carto*Graphy. It’s available everywhere, really. And it’s an ebook and it’s a print book and it’s, it’s based on Jim’s writing. They are Jim’s writings. And then what Ken did was he just turned it into a book. So you get that.

There are a lot of other books that are about locality. Martin Davis has a really wonderful book that was published by Wessex Astrology, and there is a course at Kepler College on Astro*Carto*Graphy. And then there are just individual people who, you know, give lectures. I mean, I’ve given webinars, a lot of other people, not just me, but that would be one way to start learning it.

And the other way is, do you have software? You can look at the mapping function in the software. Or you go to Astro.com. Uh, the one thing I’ll say that’s important is that if you do go to RO com and use it, um, make sure you use what’s called the “In mundo” option rather than zodiacal.

And the reason I say that is, is the one thing that’s important about the map as opposed to a chart, on your software, if when you draw a chart, it’s two dimensional, so you’re doing latitude and longitude. When you’re doing the map, it’s three-dimensional, so the map will show you where the planets actually are in the sky, and there are a few planets that could sometimes change in terms of how close they are to an angle, because you want them within a certain orb, like maybe five degrees. So that’s important.

But that’s what I would do. I would go to, if you’re interested in your chart, I mean, if you don’t have software, if you’re not using professional software, go to Astro.com. It’s a wonderful option and it’s really, they have a very good program there. And they’ll give you definitions. You know, if you click on a place, it’ll tell you the options. Like everything else, take everything with a grain of salt, you know, it might be generally correct, but you always have to go to your chart to do that. Right? And, and that’s what I would do. I would, I would really start basically by using your own chart. And yes, I would also look and see where certain planets are and think about it. Now, have I ever lived in that place? Do I, have I known somebody from that place? Have I ever had a connection with that place on some level? And we all in this global world have had connections, and movies, and things from all over, and that’s how you start to think about it.

Look at your own map and look at the places and see, and you might come up with some really interesting things when you do that.

April: Yeah, just don’t look for just Venus and Jupiter, if you have aspects to Venus and Jupiter in your birth chart!

Ronnie: Well, look at the Sun. I mean, you can look at the Sun line where the Sun is. That might be where you have confidence, where you kind of have success or where you feel confident enough to express yourself, to be ambitious, to seek out opportunity. It’s really nice to look at something in a general way, like people look at Sun sign astrology, but then if you’re more serious about it, it’s really good to take another look and really kind of delve into all those aspects of it. I think it’s very interesting.

April: Where can people find you and what do you have coming up in terms of lectures or classes or anything?

Ronnie: Yeah. You can find me at ronniedreyer.com, my website, and I always have, uh, there’s a way of getting in touch with me with email through there, or my email is ronniegaledreyer@gmail.com, but you can just find me through my website and I teach, uh, ongoing classes in Indian astrology, in Vedic astrology a lot. I also do a year-ahead webinar. I have a newsletter, you can sign up for my free newsletter online. And actually, I’m going to be giving a talk on Astro*Carto*Graphy for OPA, for the Organization for Professional Astrology, in November. So if you’re an OPA member, it’ll be free. And if you’re not an OPA member, I don’t think it’s going to be very expensive.

So that would be a good place to also hear me. But you don’t have to only hear me. You can go on YouTube; there are a zillion people who are talking about Astro*Carto*Graphy.

April: Is that already up on, do you know if that’s already up on OPA’s website?

Ronnie: I think so. If you, if you go to… yeah.

April: Oh, we’ll find the link. And we’ll put it in the show description so people can get there, to your website and the link to your book, um, your husband’s book, the Astro*Carto*Graphy thing. Thank you so much. I hope to see you at UAC. I’m definitely going to be at your lecture on Astro*Carto*Graphy. Right at my alley. And thank you so much for being with us today!

Ronnie: Well, thank you. It’s so nice to talk to you and to your audience. I hope it gave everybody a little bit of an introduction to Astro*Carto*Graphy.

April: I had so much fun speaking with Ronnie, and in fact, this whole week of interviews has been such a gift that I’ve given myself as well as to all of you. I hope that you’ve enjoyed these conversations as much as I did, and that you will be inspired, maybe to investigate some of the astrological specialties that we’ve heard about this week.

If you missed any of the interviews, I hope that you’ll backtrack to all the weeks’ episodes and listen to every single one.

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